The purpose of boycotting Israel

On the allergy of boycott campaign leaders to Israeli and Palestinian partnership.

What kind of one state campaigner won’t take a stand against antisemitism in their movement? What kind of peace campaigner interferes with partnerships?

Bonus link for British readers available until this Thursday: BBC Radio 4, The World Tonight, Friday 29 July, 22:00, beginning minute 36.50, Mustafa Barghouti not addressing any of the barriers to his “more human” one state settlement, nor any of the reasons why most people accept that it’s either two states or conflict.

9 Responses to “The purpose of boycotting Israel”

  1. Brian Robinson Says:

    Thank you Mira. Here’s my transcript of the BBC Barghouti interview. Dr-Mustafa-Barghouti-interviewed-by-Robin-Lustig-on-The-World-Tonight-BBC-Radio-4_29-7-2010

    Lustig: Leaders of the Arab League called on Palestinians and Israelis to resume direct negotiations today in the hope that somehow they can narrow their differences on how to resolve the conflict. For decades now the aim of all of these negotiations both direct and indirect has been to find a way of moving towards what’s known as a two-state solution — Israel side by side with an independent Palestinian state, each respecting the rights of the other in peace and harmony.

    But that goal seems as far away as ever and some Palestinians are beginnng to wonder if a one-state solution, in which Jews and Palns live side by side in the same state, might be a better prospect. Dr Mustafa Barghouti is an independent Palestinian democracy activist and a former presidential candidate. I asked him if he thinks that a 1-state solution is now more likely than a 2-state solution.

    Barghouti: The short and the easier solution is a two-state solution. The only alternative to a 2-state solution which israel is destroyingin is actually a one-state solution. It will be longer, it will be harder but it will be the only available alternative to the fact that Israel is destroying the 2-state option.

    Lustig: But let’s try to imagine what kind of a state that 1-state would be — a state which included Jewish Israelis Arab Israelis and Palestinians who are living in the West Bank and possibly also those how live in the Gaza Strip. Would it be, could it be, a state in which all those citizens had equal rights?

    MB: Absolutely, I think that would be the aim. Don’t forget that Arab Israelis are also Palestinians, and Palestinians are both Christian and Muslim, from religious perspective, talk about Jewish people Muslim and Christians who are palns both, and living together in harmony, supposedly, and with equal rights. So, of course, when we speak about 1-state solution it means one state with full democratic rights for everybody and basically one person one vote. This was the solution in the case of S Africa and I think it should be the solution here.

    RL: I can think of two big problems among the many problems which arise out of this discussion. The first is that it would mean Palestinians giving up their dream of an independent Palestinians state. Secondly presumably it would also entail Jewish Israelis giving up their dream — and indeed their reality — of living in a Jewish state.

    MB: Exactly. That would be giving up nationalistic feelings to more human and universal values. I think the way to solve the Palestinian issue today is that Israelis would accept us as equal human beings with full rights and full duties.

    RL: You are a realist and a pragmatist, you know better than most what the realities are on the ground, can you honestly say that you can see this happening one day?

    MB: Yes, I mean let’s be clear again. I prefer if we can have two states option where Palestinians can have a fully sovereign state, decent state in all the occupied territories, including East Jerusalem as the capital of this state. This as I said would be the shorter way. My heart wants to see this happen, my brain tells me today it’s impossible, that’s why I see that that dream is to have a state, and I see that it can happen, why not, I mean look at other countries in the world. Who thought in the 80s that we can see again South Africa where people will be living there in harmony in one democratic system. I think that’s possible — if we allow human approach, and if we allow the principles of democracy and principles of dignity and principles of human rights to prevail.

    END OF INTERVIEW

  2. Scotch-git Says:

    Dear Mira Vogel,
    Am I missing something here? From where or whom do BDS derive their supposed authority? If Palestinian film directors and Al Quds University disagree with the aims of BDS why don’t they ignore their objections?

  3. Alex Says:

    I haven’t checked the link, but normally you can get BBC iplayer radio (not TV) worldwide.

  4. Karl Pfeifer Says:

    @Scotch-git@ probably because one of the main arguments in the inner Palestinian discussion is violence used against those suspected of collaboration with the Israeli enemy.

  5. zkharya Says:

    ‘if we allow human approach, and if we allow the principles of democracy and principles of dignity and principles of human rights to prevail.’

    i.e. no Jewish state. The same position as in 1947.

  6. Bialik Says:

    That’s right, keep mentioning South Africa and talk about Israel not respecting Palestinians as human beings. Note also that Israel’s ambitions are nationalistic but the Palestinians aren’t. If only the BBC had better quality control of its news programmes.

    • Brian Robinson Says:

      Bialik, You write, “If only the BBC had better quality control of its news programmes”, but isn’t it better that we should be able to hear what Barghouti is really saying so we can judge for ourselves? I thought Lustig put the objections fairly.
      Brian R

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